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heat over hagel. commander in chief barack obama has nominated charles chuck hagel for secretary of defense. hagel testified before the senate armed services committed tee this week. is senator john mccain grilling hagel about hagel's opposition to the surge in iraq in 2007. >> were you correct in your judgment. >> i would defer that to history. >> when you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i played those comments. >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that is a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> senator hagel explained he opposed the surge in iraq because it cost nearly 1200 american lives. >> i saw the consequences and the suffering and the horror of war. so i did question a surge. i always ask the question, is this going to be worth the sacrifice? because there will be sacrifice. >> that was hagel's emphasis on the cost factor. my question is this. his emphasis on the cost factor in military decisions, does it serve as a dodge to senator mccain's bullet? or
heat over hagel. commander in chief barack obama has nominated charles chuck hagel for secretary of defense. hagel testified before the senate armed services committed tee this week. is senator john mccain grilling hagel about hagel's opposition to the surge in iraq in 2007. >> were you correct in your judgment. >> i would defer that to history. >> when you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i played those comments. >> i want to know if you...
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chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue, it is chuck hagel. his problem is not syntax, but elementary knowledge. he spoke about iran as a legitimately elected government. we know that the revolution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigged election, an illegitimate economy. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of containment. it was not a badgering issue. he said he supports the administration's policy of containment. he then gets a note and said, i have been told i made a mistake. of course, i am not in support of that. the policy of this administration on containment is that it does not have a policy. at which point, democratic senator levin had to rescue him and said, in fact, the administration has a policy on containment, and it is to oppose it. he was clueless. >> colby. clueless? >> he was in the position where he had to dodge a little bit. let's go back to the exchange with senator mccain on the surge. the issue was never the surge when you talk about iraq. the issue was, as senat
chuck hagel was not going to give it to him. >> john mccain is not the issue, it is chuck hagel. his problem is not syntax, but elementary knowledge. he spoke about iran as a legitimately elected government. we know that the revolution of 2009 was sparked by the fact that it was a rigged election, an illegitimate economy. the clip i wanted you to show was the one in which he was asked about the policy of containment. it was not a badgering issue. he said he supports the administration's...
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part of what hagel is arguing, not all wars are worth winning. we tend to discuss, as long as we won, that is fine, good enough. and his point is there is a cost, even to something that goes to that, as well. >> and he expresses it emotionally in the hearing, it is not just the fact that you can staunch the bleeding, it is the fact you need to treat the wound. and that is where hagel wanted to express he was coming from, there were some engagements that shouldn't be done. and we shouldn't think as view is, somebody should write us out of the main stream. >> you picked what hagel talked about, what he wants to do with the navy. it strikes me as important, as well. if you could play that. >> the navy is an indispensable part of our security apparatus. first it is the one unobjectable power we have in the world. obviously, our balances of the asia pacific, persian gulf, we talked all day about iran, specifically iran in the persian gulf. you know we have the fifth fleet, and bahrain, two little battle groups in that small area. the flexibility, the
part of what hagel is arguing, not all wars are worth winning. we tend to discuss, as long as we won, that is fine, good enough. and his point is there is a cost, even to something that goes to that, as well. >> and he expresses it emotionally in the hearing, it is not just the fact that you can staunch the bleeding, it is the fact you need to treat the wound. and that is where hagel wanted to express he was coming from, there were some engagements that shouldn't be done. and we shouldn't...
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we have to move on to the chuck hagel confirmation hearings. senators and former senators usually get the kid glove treatment in front of their former pierce but not so for chuck hagel. >> i'm on the record on many issues but no one individual vote, no one individual quote, no one individual statement defines me. my believes or my record. my overall world view has never changed. gwen: but by the end of an eight-hour hearing he's been called a flip-flopper, untrustworthy and lacking in judgment. it's generally now greed he did not do so well. what remains unclear is what happened, doyle? >> what happened? well, gwen, as you said, some former members of congress do brilliantly in front of committees. gwen: john kerry. >> and leon panetta? they schmooze and charm their colleagues and then there's chuck hagel. that's not who he is. he started out -- as he said, no single quote. well, he had a lot of quotes that were going to be a problem. he had a whole lot of relationships with republicans that were going to be a problem. but he's also kind of a p
we have to move on to the chuck hagel confirmation hearings. senators and former senators usually get the kid glove treatment in front of their former pierce but not so for chuck hagel. >> i'm on the record on many issues but no one individual vote, no one individual quote, no one individual statement defines me. my believes or my record. my overall world view has never changed. gwen: but by the end of an eight-hour hearing he's been called a flip-flopper, untrustworthy and lacking in...
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why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq. but it immediately becomes about vietnam. it's as how they're talking about. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder which of course mccain and hagel both served in. when mccain talks about iraq, he only wants to talk about it from the surge on, it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count. and we can still debate whether the surge worked or not. the bigger issue is whether iraq was as bad as vietnam and he doesn't want to have that argument. >> here he is, joy, why don't you respond to mccain sinking his teeth into hagel's ankle. he wouldn't let go of the question of the surge. back again to the old war. >> will you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to the surge being th
why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq. but it immediately becomes about vietnam. it's as how they're talking about. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder which of course mccain and hagel both served in. when mccain talks about iraq, he only wants to talk about it from the surge on, it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count....
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one of them i think is senator chuck hagel. >> john mccain and chuck hagel were so close that in 2000, when john mccain realized that he was not going to get the presidential nomination, when john mccain decided he had to give up that bitterly fought nomination battle, the person his campaign put out to speak to the press the day he made his decision to withdraw was his dear friend, old chuck. >> two aides tell nbc news that the arizona senator will announce a suspension of his quest for the white house. back in arizona after his crushing defeat on super tuesday mccain called supporters to thank them. >> we're glad to be home. >> nebraska senator chuck hagel, who spoke to mccain three times yesterday, believes mccain will stay in the republican party. >> he understands the big picture here. >> as you can tell from looking at this footage, as you can tell specifically from the evolution of the eye bags and the hairdos over time, that whole thing between chuck hague sxl john mccain was a long while ago. chuck hagel as john mccain's campaign co-chair, as the top of his short list for def
one of them i think is senator chuck hagel. >> john mccain and chuck hagel were so close that in 2000, when john mccain realized that he was not going to get the presidential nomination, when john mccain decided he had to give up that bitterly fought nomination battle, the person his campaign put out to speak to the press the day he made his decision to withdraw was his dear friend, old chuck. >> two aides tell nbc news that the arizona senator will announce a suspension of his...
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the ticked-off hagel, is it just for show? the basic unfairness of vietnam itself that some went and some didn't? is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win the war or end it? what is it about john mccain that seems to excite those who know nothing about vietnam. well tonight we dig into the deep well of resentment burning in john mccain's patriotic heart. a resentment not against the north vietnamese who imprisoned and tortured him, not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stain mccain's reputation. but just like he did, in the same army of america's long nightmare in vietnam. i'm joined by david corn with "mother jones" and joy reed with the grio. i have to tell you i'm convinced we're watching a flashback. watch this, here's senator john mccain, he did a long, angry wind-up before he launched into his first so-called question. it was really an indictment for former senate colleague and former friend and fellow vietnam veteran, chuck hagel. it included put-downs, as well as reference does vietnam
the ticked-off hagel, is it just for show? the basic unfairness of vietnam itself that some went and some didn't? is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win the war or end it? what is it about john mccain that seems to excite those who know nothing about vietnam. well tonight we dig into the deep well of resentment burning in john mccain's patriotic heart. a resentment not against the north vietnamese who imprisoned and tortured him, not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who...
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, senator hagel? >> well, senator, i stand by them because i made them. >> were you right? were you correct in your assessment? >> well, i would defer to the judgment of history to sort that out. but i'll -- >> the committee deserves your judgment as to whether you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i made those comments and -- >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> the surge assisted in the objective. but if we review the record a little bit -- >> will you please answer the question? were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? yes or no? >> my reference to the surge being -- >> are you answering the question, senator hagel? the question is were you right or wrong? that's a pretty straightforward question. i would like the answer whether you were right or wrong, and then you are free to elabor
, senator hagel? >> well, senator, i stand by them because i made them. >> were you right? were you correct in your assessment? >> well, i would defer to the judgment of history to sort that out. but i'll -- >> the committee deserves your judgment as to whether you were right or wrong about the surge. >> i'll explain why i made those comments and -- >> i want to know if you were right or wrong. that's a direct question. i expect a direct answer. >> the...
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the have it tree troll against chuck hagel. is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what is it that burns so deeply in john mccain today? for some reason he wants to play it again and again in iraq and afterno afghanistan and again in iran. we look at the resentment burning in john mccain's heart. it's not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stay mccain's reputation in 2000 but a guy who fear and rallied against wounds just like he did. chuck hagel, a nightmare, by the way, whose flashbacks must haunt still the heart still of john sydney mccain. both are msnbc analysts. both of you, sir, and lady, are younger than me, but i must tell you i'm absolutely convinced we're watching a flashback. watch this. he did a long angry windup before he launched into his first so-called question which was really an indictment. it included putdowns as well as references to vietnam. let's listen. >> in january of 2007 in a rather bizarre exchange with secretary rice in the foreign relations co
the have it tree troll against chuck hagel. is it about lyndon johnson's inability to win that war or end it? what is it that burns so deeply in john mccain today? for some reason he wants to play it again and again in iraq and afterno afghanistan and again in iran. we look at the resentment burning in john mccain's heart. it's not against george w. bush and his political henchmen who tried to stay mccain's reputation in 2000 but a guy who fear and rallied against wounds just like he did. chuck...
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how are you going to vote on the hagel nomination? >> we still have some more information but again that wasn't an academic discussion i was having with senator hagel. we were losing the war in 2006 and when the president came around president bush who i had been very critical of came around and sent david petraeus and the surge we succeeded in iraq. now, because of the obama administration actions afterwards we are losing and badly unraveling. the fact is if we hadn't done that more american lives would have been lost unnecessarily. so for then senator hagel to say well, he will let history be the judge. he was there and involved and i'm sure he is wrong and he knows he is wrong on the basis of the facts of what happened. >> chris: so i got to press it again. because you saw the hearing. you know his record. are you going to support him for defense secretary? >> i will see the rest of the answers to his questions but i have very grave concerns. >> chris: grave concerns. fair to say you are leaning against voting for him? >> i think t
how are you going to vote on the hagel nomination? >> we still have some more information but again that wasn't an academic discussion i was having with senator hagel. we were losing the war in 2006 and when the president came around president bush who i had been very critical of came around and sent david petraeus and the surge we succeeded in iraq. now, because of the obama administration actions afterwards we are losing and badly unraveling. the fact is if we hadn't done that more...
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no vote for hagel until panetta answers questions about benghazi. [laughter] what happens when ten jews sit in a room and try to come up with puns really. starts that way every morning, actually. so two weeks ago lindsey rhett graham had his raisin -- whatever it's a play. >> did the president show any curiosity about how is this going? what kind of assets do you have helping these people? did he ever make that phonecall? >> look, there's no question in my mind the president of the united states was concerned about american lives. >> with all due respect i don't believe it's a credible statement. >> jon: oh, with all due respect, the president does not care for he is a cad and a scoundrel. [ laughter ] it's a plan as the alabaster tone in my creamy skin and as simple as my maid kicked in the head by a donkey. this president lies like all the other men who woo you with their lives and leave behind nothing but broken dreams and a torn cotton negligee you ordered special from a yankee catalog. [cheers and applause] [laughter] anyway, the point is he go
no vote for hagel until panetta answers questions about benghazi. [laughter] what happens when ten jews sit in a room and try to come up with puns really. starts that way every morning, actually. so two weeks ago lindsey rhett graham had his raisin -- whatever it's a play. >> did the president show any curiosity about how is this going? what kind of assets do you have helping these people? did he ever make that phonecall? >> look, there's no question in my mind the president of the...
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so is chuck hagel. i find myself disagreeing with senator kerrey on occasion, but i think he is in the mainstream of thinking and will do a good job for the country. i don't vote against nominees very often. senator obama to me if we use this standard, i think we would all be in pretty good shape over here and vote a lot. the we're not. at the end of the day, it is just not the vote about the iranian revolutionary guard but a series of votes and statements that paid a unusually disturbing picture. there is the left lane in politics, the right man to man the middle-income and when it comes to some of the iranian israeli issues there is the chuck hagel lane. he is in the league of his own. there is nobody with this kind of a series of votes in the series of statements. it's is not one thing. i see dumb things every day. it is a series of things, a series of votes, and edge about him that makes many of us very unnerved about his selection to a time when the world is on fire. ferias a contagion will take th
so is chuck hagel. i find myself disagreeing with senator kerrey on occasion, but i think he is in the mainstream of thinking and will do a good job for the country. i don't vote against nominees very often. senator obama to me if we use this standard, i think we would all be in pretty good shape over here and vote a lot. the we're not. at the end of the day, it is just not the vote about the iranian revolutionary guard but a series of votes and statements that paid a unusually disturbing...
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was wrong. >> what should hagel have said? what would you have told him to say? >> i think he said correctly, we're going to let history judge iraq, because frankly chuck hagel could have said, senator mccain, i think i might have been wrong on iraq. were you wrong on iraq? here's the question. none of that is anything that the next secretary of defense is going to deal with. hold on. let's split this into two buckets. there was the totalally out of context questions that won't bear on what the next secretary of defense will do. he seemed unprepared on the questions that quite frankly he knew were coming. >> he had mock hearings. should he go to the president and say, do you still have confidence in me? >> i'm reminded through weeks into his first term of the obama administration. time geithner gives a speech at the treasury department about our banking industry and how to save it. three weeks into the administration. three weeks into his tenure. the market dropped 382 points. two weeks ago, tim geithner walked out of the trea
was wrong. >> what should hagel have said? what would you have told him to say? >> i think he said correctly, we're going to let history judge iraq, because frankly chuck hagel could have said, senator mccain, i think i might have been wrong on iraq. were you wrong on iraq? here's the question. none of that is anything that the next secretary of defense is going to deal with. hold on. let's split this into two buckets. there was the totalally out of context questions that won't bear...
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senate confirms chuck hagel. what increased demand for cocoanuts has failed to bear fruit for indonesia as farmers. pope benedict xvi is making his final appearance in st. peter's square as the roman catholic pope -- his final appearance in at st. peter's square. he is the first pope in 600 years to resign. >> in these recent months, i felt my weakening strength. i prayed and asked for in light meant to make the right decision for the good of the church. >> barbara, amid the huge outpouring of affection from the faithful gathered there. >> absolutely. a lot of people have turned out to say goodbye to pope benedict xvi. 50,000 tickets were sold. it is more likely that there are about 150,000 people around the vatican and the main road that leads to it. people are still walking towards st. peter's square, but they're being redirected to other parts around the square where there are big screens where they can watch the pope. nothing compared to the figures of the people we saw for the funeral of john paul back in 20
senate confirms chuck hagel. what increased demand for cocoanuts has failed to bear fruit for indonesia as farmers. pope benedict xvi is making his final appearance in st. peter's square as the roman catholic pope -- his final appearance in at st. peter's square. he is the first pope in 600 years to resign. >> in these recent months, i felt my weakening strength. i prayed and asked for in light meant to make the right decision for the good of the church. >> barbara, amid the huge...
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why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> well, it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq, but it immediately becomes over vietnam. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder, which, of course, mccain and hagel both served in. you know, when mccain talks about iraq, all he wants to talk about is from the surge on. it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count, and we can still debate whether the surge worked or not, but the bigger issue is whether iraq was as bad as vietnam, and he doesn't want to have that argument. >> here is mccain sinking his teeth into hagel's ankle here, and he wouldn't let go on the question of the iraq surge. again, what david said. let's listen again, back again to the old war. >> were you correct or incorrect when you said that the surge would be the most dangerous foreign policy blunder in this country since vietnam? were you correct or incorrect? >> my -- >> yes or no. >> my referenc
why is he fighting hagel over vietnam? >> well, it's interesting because he's ostensibly fighting with him over iraq, but it immediately becomes over vietnam. he seems to be mad that hagel took issue with him about iraq and compared it to vietnam being the big blunder, which, of course, mccain and hagel both served in. you know, when mccain talks about iraq, all he wants to talk about is from the surge on. it's as if everything before that didn't happen and didn't count, and we can still...
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they don't want to waste it on hagel. they'll save it for the budget issues. >>> the trivia question, how many states do not celebrate groundhog day? the answer is just one. it's alaska. you guys are going to love this. in 2009 then governor sarah palin signed a bill to make every february 2nd marmot day, there aren't that many groundhog in alaska, so why not do marmots. we'll be right back. all stations come over to mission a for a final go. this is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers. >>> is there a disconnect between the way the public perceives the economy and what's really happening? today's jobs report shows the economy created 127,000 more jobs than originally thought in november and december. just the latest not a string of positive indicators that are pushing the dow
they don't want to waste it on hagel. they'll save it for the budget issues. >>> the trivia question, how many states do not celebrate groundhog day? the answer is just one. it's alaska. you guys are going to love this. in 2009 then governor sarah palin signed a bill to make every february 2nd marmot day, there aren't that many groundhog in alaska, so why not do marmots. we'll be right back. all stations come over to mission a for a final go. this is for real this time. step seven...
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were you wounded, senator hagel? >> finally, there was the nominee himself, who appeared to have prepared for the hearing by skimming a few briefing talking points on his cab right to the capital and who rather than defending some of hits comments on foreign policy, the importance of exhausting every chance of peace rather than leaping into the horrors of war, the dysfunctional congressional politics of israel/palestine, he seemed resign to glumly recant. >> name one person, in your opinion, who is intimidated by the israeli lobby in the united states senate. >> well, first -- >> name one. >> i don't know. >> well, why would you say it? >> i didn't have in mind a specific person. >> do you agree it's a provocative statement? that i can't think of a more provocative thing to say about the relationship between the united states and israel and the senate or the congress than what you said. name one dumb thing we've had goetded into doing from the pressure of the valley or jewish lobby. >> i have already stated that i re
were you wounded, senator hagel? >> finally, there was the nominee himself, who appeared to have prepared for the hearing by skimming a few briefing talking points on his cab right to the capital and who rather than defending some of hits comments on foreign policy, the importance of exhausting every chance of peace rather than leaping into the horrors of war, the dysfunctional congressional politics of israel/palestine, he seemed resign to glumly recant. >> name one person, in your...
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chuck hagel. congress is on break but that won't tamp down the noise. even though the same republicans bashing him admit he's still likely to get the job. border patrol, parts of the president's hidden plan on immigration leak out into one nation's newspaper, prompting republicans to fight before the real debate even gets started. and ten years later, what some key players are saying about the decision to topple saddam hussein in 2003. >> good morning, happy president's day in minneapolis. it's monday, february 18, 2013, and this is "the daily rundown." here's chuck todd. >> thanks, brad, and happy president's day to all of you. but remember, the federal government says this holiday is called washington's birthday, so get it right. let's get to my first reads of the morning. defense secretary nominee chuck hagel may have stepped forward forward -- sequestering of the filibuster that put the hagel vote off another week. >> john brennan, cia director, and chuck hagel as secretary of defense, we want
chuck hagel. congress is on break but that won't tamp down the noise. even though the same republicans bashing him admit he's still likely to get the job. border patrol, parts of the president's hidden plan on immigration leak out into one nation's newspaper, prompting republicans to fight before the real debate even gets started. and ten years later, what some key players are saying about the decision to topple saddam hussein in 2003. >> good morning, happy president's day in...